Všeobecné: Bitcoin a alternatívne kryptomeny (informácie, problémy, skúsenosti..)

[Chris]

tych 56mega este musi najprv vytiahnut za eur alebo $$$ skor kym to padne

[shajek]

no a to ma zaujima ako kde a kto mu takyto obnos, pri takom kurze kupi

[stiv]

Moze to minat v BTC.

[MaceKx]

A uz vieme co sa stalo ? Na reddit pisu ze boli napadnuty ale nieje to potvrdene, druha vec ze moja anglina nieje dobra

[Leon]

Niekto kompetentny na Nicehash stranke vraj pridal post (nie písaný ako FB fan page post ale ako keby na stránku napísal užívateľ), že všetky kryptomeny sú vraj v bezpečí a že od zajtra rána by sa malo dať ťažiť.

[hulo92]

mohli by dat nejaku kompenzaciu za toto akoze

[yesper]

zatial nie je nic oficialne.. mozno to bude inac ako vacsina predpoklada, trocha iny pohlad na vec v spojleri

Spoiler: ukázať

I (like many others) have been closely watching this subreddit and NH's social media over the past couple hours to try and figure out what the hell is going on.

Most of it is just wild speculation and doesn't really get anyone anywhere, so I thought I'd share what we know for sure so far and what it may or may not mean. So yes, there will be a bit speculation, but not wild.

There will be an update soon: https://i.redditmedia.com/2GoR3J2tnSOB0 ... 0da9b1aa18 Originally posted by /u/vrvana here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comme ... n/dquzwlu/

NH's main wallet emptied: https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/addre ... kRVVXRZNgF Posted by /u/xanhugh (and probably others) here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comme ... d/dquq0y0/

So all we really know is their main wallet has sent funds to another one with an unknown owner, and they will update us on the situation soon™.

What we DON'T know is who the funds were transferred to, and why the funds were transferred.

Hacked?

The prevalent theory seems to be that a hacker (or multiple) stole the money and transferred them to their account.

However, based on NH's response, I doubt this is true. If I operated a business of comparable scale and had my operation hacked and completely drained of all resources, I wouldn't pretend to know what's going on by putting it into maintenance mode.

Because then this is what happens. Reddit goes nuts and people get ready with their pitchforks. Because if there's one thing in the entire world that gets people more upset than losing money, it's being 90% sure you've lost money, but still having that small hope it may still be there. Because then, whenever you actually find out you DID, in fact, lose money, the actual upset is much bigger than if you had known it from the start.

Also, if they really did get hacked and lost all their money, they've been working with BTC long enough to know that there's nothing they can do. There would be absolutely no way in hell they could recover the funds, so there would be no need to try everything, since there's nothing to try.

In conclusion: Getting hacked would give them zero incentive to play it cool. It would give them all the incentive to just admit it. Whether or not they immediately own up to getting hacked has no influence on their career as a business: it's over regardless.

Exit Scam?

Instead of discussing this myself, I'll quote the post of /u/kinsmore who explained it much more beautifully than I ever could. The full post is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comme ... y/dquszm8/

Nicehash has been in this market since 2014, and are making an insane amount of money right now. That would be like a bank teller deciding to steal all the cash on hand 3 years into their job where they were recommended to be branch manager soon. It doesn't make any sense, exit scams happen, but generally not to successful, well paying, well setup businesses (which nicehash is)

The other possibility

To me personally, the only thing that would explain everything, the mysterious maintenance, the transferred funds, and the lack of updates from NH is this: They colossally messed up.

Something must've gone terribly wrong during those earlier maintenances where the site itself was up, but certain functions were disabled or not working properly. I have two theories on what exactly could've happened:

They were implementing something new and screwed up.

The company/technology behind their servers/services messed something up.

What exactly, I don't know. But what I've experienced during their earlier maintenances makes this seem all the more plausible.

I don't know about you, but I for one was able to place orders & change prices sometimes, even though I felt like I shouldn't have been able to, during their earlier maintenances. It's possible that while the price change may have gone through, it was logged incorrectly and someone got billed/paid more/less than they should have.

Why transfer all the funds to a different wallet? You may ask. Couple of possible reasons:

They've requested help from outside because they can't handle the situation themselves, but obviously don't want them to be able to snatch a boatload of bitcoins while fixing an issue. This would also explain the lack of updates, since NH wouldn't even know what's happening in this scenario.

They're completely wiping the server and need the funds to be safe.

Something's actually wrong with the service's logic, and they want to prevent it from accidentally sending out funds it isn't meant to send out.

In conclusion: A colossal fuckup is the only thing, from my perspective, that explains the mysterious maintenance, the lack of updates, and the transfer of funds. While it's easy to say they've exit scammed or been hacked, it really just doesn't make a lot of sense if you take everything into account. Pretending to do maintenance doesn't help your dying business if you've been hacked, and exit scamming right now would be the dumbest thing since solar roadways considering all the current (and future) profits they'd miss out on.

TL;DR: Exit scam & hack don't make sense, my bet is on a screwup on their end.

[shajek]

Moze to minat v BTC.

j, a bude dokonca zivota aj jeho deti drzat 55mega v BTC.... jasne ze to podla mna musi na burze nejako predat... ale zaujima ma ako

[LordKJ]

ale tak hodit web do maintenance rezimu po hacku je bezna prax

[hulo92]

tak do rana to asi nebude

Dear NiceHash users!
Unfortunately, there has been a security breach involving NiceHash website. We are currently investigating the nature of the incident and, as a result, we are stopping all operations for the next 24 hours.
Importantly, our payment system was compromised and the contents of the NiceHash Bitcoin wallet have been stolen. We are working to verify the precise number of BTC taken.
Clearly, this is a matter of deep concern and we are working hard to rectify the matter in the coming days. In addition to undertaking our own investigation, the incident has been reported to the relevant authorities and law enforcement and we are co-operating with them as a matter of urgency.
We are fully committed to restoring the NiceHash service with the highest security measures at the earliest opportunity.
We would not exist without our devoted buyers and miners all around the globe. We understand that you will have a lot of questions, and we ask for patience and understanding while we investigate the causes and find the appropriate solutions for the future of the service. We will endeavour to update you at regular intervals.
While the full scope of what happened is not yet known, we recommend, as a precaution, that you change your online passwords.
We are truly sorry for any inconvenience that this may have caused and are committing every resource towards solving this issue as soon as possible.

[stiv]

Rip nicehack.

[Lopo]

ja som zatial vsetko prenastavil na MinerGate XMR+FCN
maju tiez GUI miner ... dokonca aj pre linux(ak mate Ubuntu alebo Fedoru)
v Arch-u mi nejde, mozno kvoli tomu ze nemam amdgpu driver ale len fglrx

[stiv]

Ja som zapol EWBF (nanopool) + MinerGate XMR. V minergate som mal menej H/s v ZCash ako EWBF.

Na nanopoole som ale prvykrat a minergate nepoznam.

[wingo]

Pre ZCASH je už dlho naj EWBF, tam nie je dôvod špekulovať s ničím iným. Ale stiahni najnovšiu verziu (0.3.4b), tá s nanopool v zátvorke je stašia (0.3.2b) s menej funkciami a mierne nižším výkonom. V tej najnovšej si môžeš vybrať aký pool chceš, ja som z nanopool prešiel na flypool, skúšal som najskôr nanopool ale často padal a ukazoval somariny alebo vôbec nič ohľadom štatistík, aj keď share zvyčajne nabiehali ako mali, s tým problém zvyčajne nebol.

[stiv]

Mam tu najnovsiu. Mne na flypoole napisalo nejaky error a zavrel sa miner. Mozno som to zle zadal. Neskopirujes tu ten text kde je adresa, port...?

EWBF a flypool som mal aj na zaciatku “manie” a fungovalo to korektne.