COVID-19 / Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) - Diskusia

[LordKJ]

Tu je prelozeny ten blog co poslal maniak
https://www.facebook.com/notes/samuel-m ... 095516629/

[scream]

Zaujimavy clanok, ono v podstate to je asi smutna realita. Idem si teda zajtra dokupit zo 20 litrov vodky.... dezinfekcia, palivo a tekuty chleba v jednom

[Leon]

Mňa do karantény nútiť netreba. Za chvíľku vyjde Half Life a neuvidí ma dokonca ani Slnko, nie to nejaký vírus ...

[scream]

Pokial mi plat bude bezat, nemam problem ani ja Benzin lacnie, cesty budu prazdne, zeleni v karantene. Pojdem sa poriadne povozit

[Zoltan Balaton]

https://twitter.com/VojtechGibis/status ... 38785?s=20

[paranoid.asian]

YOUNG AND UNAFRAID OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC? GOOD FOR YOU. NOW STOP KILLING PEOPLE
https://www.newsweek.com/young-unafraid ... on-1491797

m a doctor in a major hospital in Western Europe. Watching you Americans (and you, Brits) in these still-early days of the coronavirus pandemic is like watching a familiar horror movie, where the protagonists, yet again, split into pairs or decide to take a tour of a dark basement.

The real-life versions of this behavior are pretending this is just a flu; keeping schools open; following through with your holiday travel plans, and going into the office daily. This is what we did in Italy. We were so complacent that even when people with coronavirus symptoms started turning up, we wrote each off as a nasty case of the flu. We kept the economy going, pointed fingers at China and urged tourists to keep traveling. And the majority of us told ourselves and each other: this isn't so bad. We're young, we're fit, we'll be fine even if we catch it.

Fast-forward two months, and we are drowning. Statistically speaking—judging by the curve in China—we are not even at the peak yet, but our fatality rate is at over 6 percent, double the known global average.

Put aside statistics. Here is how it looks in practice. Most of my childhood friends are now doctors working in north Italy. In Milan, in Bergamo, in Padua, they are having to choose between intubating a 40-year-old with two kids, a 40-year old who is fit and healthy with no co-morbidities, and a 60-year-old with high blood pressure, because they don't have enough beds. In the hallway, meanwhile, there are another 15 people waiting who are already hardly breathing and need oxygen.

The army is trying to bring some of them to other regions with helicopters but it's not enough: the flow is just too much, too many people are getting sick at the same time.

We are still awaiting the peak of the epidemic in Europe: probably early April for Italy, mid-April for Germany and Switzerland, somewhere around that time for the UK. In the U.S., the infection has only just begun.

But until we're past the peak, the only solution is to impose social restrictions.

And if your government is hesitating, these restrictions are up to you. Stay put. Do not travel. Cancel that family reunion, the promotion party and the big night out. This really sucks, but these are special times. Don't take risks. Do not go to places where you are more than 20 people in the same room. It's not safe and it's not worth it.

But why the urgency, if most people survive?

Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk.

Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me.

My personal as well as professional view: we all have a duty to stay put, except for very special reasons, like, you go to work because you work in healthcare, or you have to save a life and bring someone to hospital, or go out to shop for food so you can survive. But when we get to this stage of a pandemic, it's really important not to spread the bug. The only thing that helps is social restriction. Ideally, the government should issue that instruction and provide a financial fallback—compensate business owners, ease the financial load on everyone as much as possible and reduce the incentive of risking your life or the lives of others just to make ends meet. But if your government or company is slow on the uptake, don't be that person. Take responsibility. For all but essential movement, restrict yourself.

This is epidemiology 101. It really sucks. It is extreme—but luckily, we don't have pandemics of this violence every year. So sit it out. Stay put. Don't travel. It is absolutely not worth it.

It's the civic and moral duty of every person, everywhere, to take part in the global effort to reduce this threat to humanity. To postpone any movement or travel that are not vitally essential, and to spread the disease as little as possible. Have your fun in June, July and August when this—hopefully—is over. Stay safe. Good luck.

The author is a senior doctor in a major European hospital. She asked to remain anonymous because she has not been authorized to speak to the press.

The views expressed in this article are the author's own.

[kllr007]

Inými slovami vláda by mala vramci mimoriadneho stavu zavrieť školy, deti by to nemal brať ako prázdniny a behať po nákupných centrách, zavrieť všetko okrem potravín. Takže výroba, všetky fabriky atď. Proste rázne opatrenie. Bohužiaľ to sa u nás nedeje a oni stále ešte len idú rokovať či dajú do karantény (ehm, "karantény" takej že týpek nakaziť ďalších 50 po ceste domov, bez kontroly atď) cestujúcich ktorý prídu.

Slovensko bude mať kriticky Apríl a Maj.

[paranoid.asian]

presne tak

bude to drahe (c) pelle
no a co (c) sako

[paranoid.asian]

A study awaiting peer review from scientists at Princeton University, the University of California-Los Angeles and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) posted online Wednesday indicated that the COVID-19 virus could remain viable in the air "up to 3 hours post aerosolization," while remaining alive on plastic and other surfaces for up to three days.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... in-the-air

[stiv]

Pouzivaj edit.

[josa]

Nezdá sa vám, že nastalo nejaké ticho? Nikde žiadne nové infá od včerajšieho večera....

[maniak]

josa, ked chces, nove info najdes. Taliansko hlasi vzdy az niekedy vecer celkovy sumar. Vieden hlasi prveho mrtveho a za 24 hodin + 80 pripadov (aktualne vyse 300). Update o 15.00 bude ukazovat podla predpovede okolo 330-340 nakazenych, ak nesprisnia karantenu do Piatka-Pondelka, tak uz pojdu smerom na Taliansky scenar. Spanielsko a Francuzsko idu pomerne priamo smerom k Talianskemu scenaru, Britania vsetko ignoruje a USA tiez (CDC spravila za vcera 8 testov pre cele USA - https://dennikn.sk/1795670/koronavirus- ... i/?ref=mpm)

[paranoid.asian]

16 ludi na SK
+ cesi rusia vsetky akcie nad 10ludi -.-
https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/domaci/mimo ... domaci_kop

e:
Matovič rokoval s mobilným operátorom Orange, ktorý mu povedal, že podľa SIM kariet prišlo na Slovensko z Talianska 16-tisíc ľudí. 3500 ľudí z nich je v Bratislave.
https://dennikn.sk/minuta/1795986/?ref=mpm

[Pronto]

Tych ludi co vedome klamali o svojom pobyte v IT by som bez milosti okamzite pozatvaral, verejne ohrozenie je predsa trestny cin.

[LeaR]