Protonmail - skusnosti?

[zzz]

Ahojte, rad by som sa spytal, ake skusenosti mate s protonmail.com?
Ja som ho skusil na chvilu a neni po slovensky prelozeny, dal by sa niekto na preklad prosim? Viem ze na to hladaju ludi. Kto by ste mali cas a chut, snad dame sk preklad dokopy

https://crowdin.com/project/protonmail/sk
Dikes

[kenvele]

Ak ides cez webové rozhranie más tam v pravo hore ako je EN možnosť kliknút a vybrat z niekolkých jazykov, medzi ktorými je aj Cestina. Základ rozhrania je preložený. Aplikáciu nepoužívam..tak neviem.

[zzz]

Ano, vsimol som si ze je aj cesky. Ale tuwim je tak spolovice prelozeny

Ak by mal vsak niekto cas a chut a moznost, budem rad, ak by sa na to pripadne dala aj daka komunita a zeby sa to prelozilo.

Sam zvazujem, ze budem pouzivat prave protonmail kvoli end-to-end sifrovaniu. Kto vsak vie viac, skuste o tom napisat v com to ma vyhody atd atd

[Snake]

kazdy email je End-to-End sifrovany ak mas normalneho providera

[kenvele]

Lenze to musis poslat aj kluc k tomu ...adresatovi...ak to chces mat zabezpecene..sam to pouzivam ako to je bezne a to je proste ako ktory kolvek iny email..ale ak by som zasielal nieco chulostive...asi by som to dal s tym klucom k tomu....

[zzz]

Napriklad myslim ze odoslany email z protonmail neposiela info o IP adrese a dalsich veciach. Gmail ano. A v email klientovi aj nazov pc a lokalnu ip... To by smad nemusel mat kazdy

Ci sa mylim?

A ake su rozdiely v prístupoch? Myslim, ci google vie citat obsah, pripadne sa hovori ze z letiskovych wifin neposielat maiky ale tu end to end to sifruje a teda by sa i tak nedostal nik alebo sa mylim?

A cloud - OneDrive je sifrovany ci nie je? Mozu tam v Microsofte citat mojendata tj neni sifrovany ako mega?

Dikes

Ja sa s tymito vecami zoznamujem

[Hexaris]

Tu sa pletie pgp vs komunikacia so serverom tls/ssl ... ako pise Snake, kazdy normalny provider ponuka sifrovanie pre mail komunikaciu a to bude starttls,tls,ssl a v pripade webmailu https. Takze pri komunikacii so serverom sa nemusis bat ani v podstate na public miestach. PGP je sifrovanie samotnej message public klucom prijemcu. Ja osobne pouzivam enigmu (webmail) na serveroch, ale aj tak to skoro nikto nepouziva
K tej IP je bezne, ze sa odstranuje v header lokal IP klienta. Bud cez regex/pcre ... zalezi od servera (providera). Ja som proton vtedy pouzil snad ked boli problemy tu na fore ked nechodila posta, nevedel som presne kde je problem. Uz som si ho zmenil na original moj ... snad nebude problem .
A TLS 1.0/1.1 nam uz skoncilo ...
Resume: proton je zbytocne riesit, dnes uz sa storage bezne sifruje, samotne spravy tiez ... samozrejme kluc system musi niekde nacitat, to uz je na tebe ako sa k tomu postavis.

[Snake]

S mailami problem uz nebude kedze som to switchol komplet na exchange, DKIM/ARC ako ma byt

PGP vs S/MIME, heh, vecne debaty, ja som vsetkymi desiatimi za S/MIME, ale ten nedava falosny pocit bezpecia ako PGP , resp ma ine requirements. Tuto chlapci strasne veci skryvaju

Chalosi pockajte ked objavite AIP a casovane spraavy s nastavitelnou dobou expiracie

OneDrive je sifrovany, v biznis rieseniach (opakujem biznis) sa dokonca da aplikovat BYOK.

[zzz]

OK cize standardny OneDrive pri Office 365 Home verzii je nesifrovany? Ahh jaj...

A GMail je pokial ide o sifrovanie ako?
Tym vasim skratkam az tak nerozumiem ale nevadi.

No a inak preco email klient dava do hlavicky tolko detailov o odosielatelovi tiez nechapem.

[Hexaris]

Snake: are u sure ?

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Samozrejme na cieli je to ok ... to len taky detail, nejsu hnidopich

[Snake]

@pretaktovanie.sk mame na googli (fuj), forko posiela z exchangu . Moje rozhodnutie to neni


//edit: kriste pane purgni si cache , IP4 tam je definovane uz hadam tyzden

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OK cize standardny OneDrive pri Office 365 Home verzii je nesifrovany? Ahh jaj...

A GMail je pokial ide o sifrovanie ako?
Tym vasim skratkam az tak nerozumiem ale nevadi.

No a inak preco email klient dava do hlavicky tolko detailov o odosielatelovi tiez nechapem.

To si povedal ty ze je nesifrovany.

[Hexaris]

to bolo cez mxtoolbox ... divne, oni dns nekesuju, ale tak asi hlupost na ich strane tak to ignoruj ...
Edit: uz to vracia aj toolbox ... zaujimave a sem za vola

[Snake]

ocividne hej, ale ked uz mas rozkliknuty header, mozes pozret ci to chodi podpisane? . Ked ne tak vynesiem to phpBB na balkon uz

[Hexaris]

Jasne ...

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[Snake]

Dik....ešte sa zbaviť googlu a bolo by to dokonale nech sa môže nastavit aj DMARC