LCD s IPS

[themaestrohun]

Zdravím,
aku IPS obrazovku by ste mi odporucili cena 200€ (+/- 20€)
vyuzitie: FPS hry,stratégie,filmy
zostavu mám v popise
nechcel by som mat problémy s odozvou
23-24 palcovy

tento vyzera dost dobre cenovo http://www.alza.sk/23-lg-ips235v-bn-d256858.htm#popis

[k1ll3c]

http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenze-2 ... s-227e3qph

podla testu ma na IPS panel celkom dobru odozvu.

momentalne na alze za smiesnych 118€
http://www.alza.sk/21-5-philips-227e3qp ... 273112.htm

Ci sa ti kvoli dalsiemu jednemu palcu oplati priinvestovat dalsich 30-40€ musis vediet ty.
Monitor sa vyraba aj v 23" cena cca 160€
http://www.alza.sk/23-philips-237e3qphsu-d269272.htm
ako je na tom s odozvou tento vacsi neviem

[gabiX87]

Preco uvazujes o IPS monitore ,ked bude primarne urceny na gaming ? Odoprucam ti trocha spravit si "research" o paneloch (TN,IPS,eIPS,MVA,VA a pod.). Kde su ake kompromisy, pre ktory segment su urcene a v akej cenovej hladine sa pohybuju.

Velmi strucne :
TN panel - otrasny obraz - nizka odozva (2ms,5ms) - 200€ +- 24"
e-IPS - dobry obraz - odozva 8ms dostacuje aj na gaming,zalezi od panelu - 300€ +-
MVA,VA,S-IPS a pod. - vyborny obraz - vyssia odozva - neskutocne ceny high-end 400€++

naj naj naj IPS panely mozu byt aj nad 20ms.

Mam 24" DELL U2412M 1920x1200 8ms(g2g tusim), LG panel. Rozhodoval som sa medzi 24-27" Philipsom TN a DELL-om e-IPS. Co sa tyka odozvy nezaznamel som ziadny vyrazny ghosting. Je to uplne perfektny display ,pre moje potreby, okolo 250€. Mam vedla neho 15" Eizo FlexScan L375 rozdiel je v podani ciernej pre Eizo a "IPS-Glow" na strane DELL-u. Recenzie si vygoogli.

Alza 24" DELL - check recenzie mam tam prispevok
http://www.alza.sk/24-dell-u2412m-d260038.htm#recenze

Barevný gamut: co to je a jak jsou na tom dnešní LCD?
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/barevny-g ... dnesni-lcd

No nejdem sa viac rozpisovat , pockam na odpoved.


EDIT :

vyborna stranka - http://tftcentral.co.uk/
Dell U2412M http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm

[sanjuro]

http://lcd-monitory.heureka.sk/dell-u2312hm/ + poriadna recenzia http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php? ... 1275291737
na rychle hry by som aj tak IPS nekupoval. Ked uz sa aj rozhodnes pre nejaky iny IPS hlavne si pozri odborne recenzie, kde vidis naozaj realne aj odozvu monitora.

[themaestrohun]

neviem aky je IPS monitor lebo som este taky nevidel ale vsade vidim komentáre ze ma ovela krajsi obraz ako TN a ked pozeram filmy tak tam chem mat pekne farby.
Ja mam stary CRT monitor a ten ma krajsie farby ako TN obrazovky ktore maju kamosi.

[sanjuro]

vies ono by to bolo najlepsie ist sa k niekomu pozriet na IPS monitor a pustit si tam nejaky rychly film popripade hru. Samozrejme ze maju krajsi obraz IPS ako TN, avsak ja tu odozvu na IPS vidim a az tak velmi mi to vadi ze radsej sa budem pozerat na TN. Niekomu odozva ale nevadi. Ja vidim nechutnu odozvu aj na iphone4.

[LordKJ]

co ja viem subjektivne s odozvou problem nemam.

[gabiX87]

Niekde na nete som pozeral taku review/recenziu kde porovnavali 2 monitory vedla seba s roznymi odozvami a boli fotene v rovnakom case. Co sa tyka tej odozvy 8ms vs 5ms vs 2ms. Rozdiel bol fakt velmi maly mozno 1-2FPS rozdiel ? Obraz na rychlejsom bol asi o 1-2mm dalej, obsahovo.

Best LCD Computer Monitors for PC Gaming in 2012
http://www.squidoo.com/top-gaming-monitor

TFT Terms, Functions and Features
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/featurescontent.htm

Panel Technologies - TN Film, MVA, PVA and IPS Explained
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/co ... ontent.htm

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http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1639433

If you want your games to run at above 60fps, play FPS games that requires fast twitch reflexes and want to see everything as clear as possible during fast motions, then 120hz TN all the way, if you are not bothered by the vertical gamma shift or just do not care about it.

Otherwise, take a look at *VA and IPS panels. Better viewing angles, more colors without dithering (although not necessarily, thanks to manufacturers nowadays being cheap twats resorting into dithered 6-bit IPS panels on some models, same amount of colors as TN) and in case of *VA much higher contrast.

IPS has average speed, average contrast, highest viewing angles without colors washing out. (except blacks, they start to glow)
*VA, slow speed, really high contast and deep blacks, average viewing angles horizontally so dont move around too much. Vertical is fine.
TN, fastest, relatively high contrast and deep blacks (depends on model), quaranteed to be dithered 6-bit colors, vertical gamma shift that doesnt go away no matter where you look at it.

Frankly, every LCD has its issues. You just have to pick a one that has least of them that bothers you. For example I personally prefer *VA panels because I play a lot of games with a lot of dark colored games and IPS with its mediocre black depth (rather greyish) does not cut it and I cant stand TNs gamma shift, and slow response times do not bother me because I rarely play really fast FPS games. Start reading reviews here: http://tftcentral.co.uk/

I think it also really depends on what your gamimg level is. If you're a highly competitive player maybe the extra responsiveness of the 120Hz panel is good for you, but for an average gamer like myself, I can't tell any lag or any issues with my IPS panel.

Ja som sa tiez trosku bal tej odozvy (8ms) ,ghosting a pod. Bolo to uplne zbytocne a to uz mam nieco odkrutene. Tie farby stoja zato oproti TN. Chod na youtube a zadaj "TN vs IPS gaming" ,alebo nieco podobne.

EDIT : TN vs. E-IPS - Counter-Strike Source
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZvMe7qbVE zastavuj si obraz cez play/pause gombik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw0acUxM ... re=related pretoc sa na 9:30 nazorny priklad rozdielov, zalezi sice nacom/cez co to budes pozerat

[themaestrohun]

ako pozeram tak by mi stacila aj tato obrazovka http://www.alza.sk/21-5-philips-227e3qp ... 273112.htm
len neviem ze aku ma kvalitu obrazu.moc neverim tejto znacke .
skusal niekto tuto obrazovku?