AMD/ATi R(V)7x0

[ujo Andydúla]

No asi ani nie...

Apparently, AMD’s next-generation Leo platform, the successor of current Spider platform, will only feature code-named ATI R6xx (ATI Radeon HD 2000-series and ATI Radeon HD 3000-series graphics cards) graphics adapters. The AMD Leo platform is due in 2008, whereas its successor – the so-called AMD Leo Refresh platform – that is scheduled to arrive in 2009 will sport code-named ATI R7xx graphics cards. In addition, ATI R700-series graphics will be featured with Kodiak and Cartwheel platforms, which are also scheduled to debut in 2009.

[beardie]

AMD Leo Refresh platform – that is scheduled to arrive in 2009 will support code-named ATI R7xx graphics cards.

Neni zadny znamy realny dùvod, proc by R700 nemìla za par mìsicù vyjit a zaroven to neodporuje tomu, proc by produkty na R7xx, napøiklad RV770, nemohla vyjit v roce 2009.

[fobos]

Tiez si mylsim, ze R700 by bohla byt vydana v 2008 a R7xx v 2009 (situacia podobna R600 - RV670 s tym rozdielom ze AMD sa s RV670 pekne poponahlalo), AMD si je urcite velmi dobre vedome toho, ze predaj RV670 drzi ATi nad vodou ale G100vke by s R6xx nehola konkurovat (na HD3870X2 urcite celkom nevsadza)

[KingP1n]

Takze mozno az v roku 2009, ak este bude nejake AMD/ATI vobec vyravat ine grafiky ako Low-End...

No v low-ende, mainstreme a aj performance triede bude ATi schopna konkurovat nVidii urcite. A tieto 3 kategorie tvoria minimalne 90% z predaja vsetkych kariet. Je pravda ze za 1 predanu high end kartu nVidia zarobi aj 3x viac ako Ati za 1 mainstrem kartu, ale ATi stale bude moct konkurovat. V nasich koncinach (tj Stredna a Vychodna Europa) si high end karty kupuje maximalne 3-4% ludi co kupuju grafiku.
Samozrejme, ze ta konkurencieschopnost ATi zalezi aj na G100, ak bude medzi G80/G92 a G100 taky vyrazny rozidel, ako bol medzi G80 a G7, tak sa ATi pravdepodobne nedostane ani do performance triedy.
Vzhladom na dnesnu situaciu na poli hier - tj vela dobrych a graficky narocnych hier, sa bude dopyt po silnejsich VGA stale zvysovat. Ak teda ATi nebude schopna konkurovat aj vo v silnejsich kategoriach, tak tym budu zisky ATi vyrazne ohrozene.
Vela zalezi samozrejme aj na tom, ci sa HD3870X2 vydari. Testy Radeonu HD3870 v Crossfire dopadli pre ATi vyborne. Ak sa im podari Radeon HD3870X2, ATi bude mat konkurencie schopnu kartu aj v performance triede. Vzhladom na to, ze bude HD3870X2 1 PCB karta, nemusime sa bat spotreby vyssej, ako ma dnesna HD2900XT.

K datumu vydania R700 sa vyjadrovat nebudem. Moj tip je September 2008.

[crux2005]

a kto hovori, ze G100 je D3D 10.1/2 cip ?

lebo to co bolo zatial zname o G100 je naozaj D3D 11 cip ...

[ujo Andydúla]

Nuz predpokladana spotreba 210W je celkom odpudzujuca, podla mna.
Kvoli vasej radosti ale prajem AMD, aby R700 vydala do 31. decembra 2008, potom sa budeme vsetci tesit, ze to stihli este v roku 2008. :o

[crux2005]

R700 is 2008 - No delays ?

nieco podobne hovori aj "Kyle" z [H]:

Sometimes people are just full of BS. AMD is right on track with R700. What AMD is doing now that some “journalists” don’t understand is that AMD is holding their cards a bit closer to the vest than is normally the case. Don’t assume since AMD is not commenting on future products that they do not even exist.

If you don’t see R700 this next year, I will paint the wheels on my truck pink, drive around Texas wearing a tutu, and take pictures for all of you to see.

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?new ... dCwsLDE=

[crux2005]

Samozrejme, ze ta konkurencieschopnost ATi zalezi aj na G100, ak bude medzi G80/G92 a G100 taky vyrazny rozidel, ako bol medzi G80 a G7, tak sa ATi pravdepodobne nedostane ani do performance triedy.

G80 bola aj preto taka "dobra" - lebo bola slabsia konkurencia

ale vykonnostny skok G80 vs. G71 uz nepredpokladam, lebo pri novej refresh generacii pojde hlavne o "prechodne riesenia" do prichodu D3D 11 (vykon narastie, urcite, ale nie tak rapidne)

[KingP1n]

Neviem ci sme sa teraz pochopili, ja som myslel vykonnostny skok medzi vykonom GF8800GTX a jej predchodcovy GF7900GTX. G7 malo znamenat ako sedmickova rada, teraz uz nepametam jak sa volali tie jadra.

[crux2005]

G71 je na GeForce 7900GTX kartach

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[crux2005]

Last week I received word that ATI has taped out their R700 core... That means they are just a few weeks away from having running R700's in the lab. A little insider FYI for you as no one else reported this!

http://forums.legitreviews.com/about12820.html

by znamenalo vydanie R700 v roku 2008 ...

[beardie]

This is very bad news!
Latest ATi product launches have taken place 9-12 months after core tape-out. If R700 taped out just recently then launch can be expected in 4Q 2008.

[crux2005]

9-12 mesiacov je prehnane vela
je to vacsinou menej ako 9 mesiacov - ani s R600 to tak dlho netrvalo

v pripade RV670: 6-7 mesiacov

[crux2005]

co mozem leaknut o "R700":

- podovdny R700 bol stornovany - AMD prehovorila mocensky
- to co sa objavi by som bez MCM podstatnych veci nazval skor "R690", nakolko nie je 7 v nazve cipu opodstatnena (imho)
- samozrejme, AMD/ATi ten cip budu predavat ako "R700".
- vyrabat sa bude v 55nm procesy (aka nahoda :roll: )
- kazda "novinka", ktora pise o viac ako 2 "jadrach" je vymyslena = nepravdiva

[crux2005]

In the middle of December slides from AMD presentation did not contain references about R7xx video card up to 2009, which forced many to think that the announcement of R700 (high end) will be delayed . Later AMD reported that they plan to release R700 in 2008.

Yesterday AMD begin the production of the first video chip models which will compose R700. it is considered that this product will be also two-chip just as the prepared for announcement at the end of January R680. Video card on base R700 will appear already during May this year.

In the past month , Apple company stated about the support of mysterious video chip RV770 at the drivers level .

Link

EDIT: nieco na tej novinke bude, lebo link uz nefunguje ...

Apple naozaj menuje RV770:

_PHM_TF_RV770_EnableL0s
_PHM_TF_RV770_EnableL1
_PHM_TF_RV770_EnablePLLSleepInL1
_PHM_TF_RV770_ProgramDisplayGap
_PHM_TF_RV770_RetrieveDisplayConfiguration
_PP_RV770_Thermal_Initialize
PhwRS780_UnInitialize
PhwRS780_Initialize
PhwRS780_SwitchMemClk

http://netkas.org/?p=45

linux ovladac pre RV770:

+ "{ATI, RV770},"

+ { 0x1002, 0xaa30, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0,
AZX_DRIVER_ATIHDMI }, /* ATI RV770 HDMI */

Link

zatial tolko a necudovalo by ma keby predavala AMD/ATi "R700" ako R720.
Pre R7x0 treba 45nm proces, AMD/ATi to vie a preto sa caka ... na 2009 ?!