AMD K10.5 - Shanghai + Deneb + Istanbul

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to budou deaktivovany, ani nemyslim, ze budou spatny, ale pro exklusivitu uz mohli pouzit treva vadne s jednim jadrem a druhe taky natvrdo zablokovat. Preci jen, dvoujadra jsou stale nejoblibenejsi a lidi cekali na K10 dvoujadro...Na hry myslim nebude vubec spatne, coz potvrzujou uz trijadra. Myslim, ze od AMD nebude lepsiho dvoujaderneho procaku nez tohoto (samozrejme BE vybizi k taktu, takze az po nataktovani, odhad 3Ghz 6500+ bude mit vysledek v hrach jak treba X2 6000+ na 3.5-3.6GHz, coz uz se ne kazdemu povede!)

[fobos]

AMD sa samo pripravilo o zisky absenciou K10 DC, pretože keby taky procesor bol napr. už v máji na trhu, tak už tiká v mojom PC, takto stále len čakám na tú správnu ponuku od AMD (Intel neprichádza v úvahu)

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For the first time in a long while, AMD might have both desktop and server processors ready for launch at about the same time. In the past, server processors have been prioritized, but this time the desktop version should be just as ready. The server equivalent Shanghai should reach first-tier partners in Q4 and if nothing goes wrong, Deneb will be in our hands about the same time. Deneb is the name of the new 45nm quad-core and one of the the main reasons it will be ready for launch this soon is because the first models will be AM2+ and not AM3.

[Editor's note: This is a repost of the previous roadmap updated to correct some factual errors.]

The AM2+ models will be placed above the current top models. Frequencies will be around 2.6-3.0GHz for the two AM2+ models. There is no guarantee we will see 3.0GHz on AM2+ though, since there is always the chance that AMD will play it safe. Deneb will have the same DDR2 memory support as current Phenom models.

In Q1, AMD will announce the AM3 platform sporting the 8xx generation chipsets enabling DDR3 support for AMD processors. The Deneb-based processors for the AM3 platform will have a much broader frequency spectrum since it will be the only quad-core architecture for the AM3 platform. The entry model is said to run at at least 2.4GHz and the launch brother to sport an additional 200MHz.

This means that AM2+ will have the upper hand on the frequency front until Q2 when the faster AM3 models should arrive. These will operate at frequencies equivalent to the AM2+ models, thus 2.6-3.0GHz. All Deneb models sports 512KB L2 cache per core, 6MB shared L3 cache and DDR3-1333 memory support. The AM2+ processors will work in the 125W TDP envelope, while the two initial, and slower, AM3 models have been specified to 95W. The two faster AM3 models launching in Q2 are also of the 125W envelope.

Updated: Along with the quad-core Deneb processors, AMD will announces a series of quad-cores based on the 45nm Heka architecture in Q1. These will sport the same size L2 cache, 512KB, and no shared L3 cache. They will be exclusive to AM3 and operate in the 95W envelope. The first two models should enter somewhere around 2.4GHz-2.8GHz.

Updated: AMD will launch one EE (Energy Efficient) quad-core Propus model in Q1. Numbers suggest a TDP of 65W and a frequency of 2.3GHz. AMD will launch a second EE model operating at 2.1GHz with 45W TDP in Q2. There was no mention of any EE Deneb models.

Updated: AMD will also announce two different tri-core series based on the Heka architecture, with L3 cache, and the Rana architecture, without L3 cache. They are both AM3 exclusive and should launch in Q2.

This roadmap certainly puts AMD back in the game since most of these processors are targeting the segments below those Nehalem will appear in. The three Nehalem models will play in the $280 and above segment, while AMD will most likely target $275 and below with its new models.

In fact, AMD has so much faith in Deneb that it is now thinking of bringing back the FX platform. Deneb FX will launch in Summer of 2009, but we're not sure exactly what separates it from the regular Deneb core since all specifications look alike between the two.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8124.html

[Gudas]

45nm AMD procesory dostanú nové značenia

[mariusss]

musím súhlasiť je to kolobeh spoločnosti sa pretekajú o týždeň to môže byť niečo iné

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AMD has updated server makers that it is planning to bring forward the launch of 45nm server processors (Shanghai) from the original schedule of January 2009 to mid-October. Nine CPUs with core frequencies between 2.3-2.7GHz will be offerer ed initially, according to sources at server makers.

The nine Shanghai processors will include five 2-way and four 8-way models. All will support the company's socket F (1207), and include an on-die DDR2 memory controller and 6MB L2 cache.

In February 2009, AMD will launch five 55W low-voltage server CPUs – three 2-way and two 8-way – and two 105W high-performance models – one 2-way and an 8-way.

Shanghai processors will only support HyperTransport 1.0 initially. Models supporting HyperTransport 3.0 will be released in the second quarter of 2009. AMD is also planning to launch a new server chipset (SR5600) in the second quarter of 2009, the sources added.


Takže poměrně brzo, defakto tento měsíc
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081001PD216.html

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Nenašel jsem to tu ani v tech citacich članku v angličtině, proto pridavam odkaz na zajimavou informaci ohledne 45nm procesoru AMD

Kód: Vybrať všetko

http://www.ddworld.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1493&Itemid=123

Pakliže se ukaže, že to je alespon z casti pravda, máme se na co těšit ))

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http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8195.html

A vicuc toho hlavniho, mame se tedy na co tesit

A while back we reported on a recent interview with AMD General Manager of AMD's Server and Workstation chip business, Pat Patla, where he claimed that Shanghai is much more than a mere die-shrink and that it is 20% faster than Barcelona clock per clock. We've been told by a second source that 20% may be a bit much, but that there is an IPC boost to expect, but closer to 15% than 20. In either case it's just a nice boost. This is applies for Deneb as well we've been told.

The source even indicates that since Nehalem isn't that much of a desktop upgrade, but server mostly, Deneb will become the gaming processor to get. We have no secondary confirmation at this time, but we wanted to forward the information. In fact, source also says that Deneb was able to do 4.3GHz under a Scythe Mine cooler, stable of course. It's very important to use the right motherboard though, you will need the SB750 southbridge to begin with.

Most people should be able to hit 3.6GHz with a decent cooler, source says. The most amazing is that the processor should still run fairly cool and consume less power than Intel equivalents. Comparing Intel's new processors to AMD's new, Intel is gaining on the server market, while AMD will be trying to get back the retail market. We will not have to wait long for it to happen either, mass production is well under way and launch is approaching.

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Ouu džízs!!! Jestli to je opravdu tak, rekordy OC vytvorene core2quad opravdu ryychle padnou xD xD xD...
Už vidim na OC soutezi taky phenom X4 20550 na 6 GHz nadopovanej dusikem xD xD xD Jupííí!

//Akorat škoda ze mám MB ze southrbidge SB600 kua to me stve...xD

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rekordy asi nepadnou (nativy vzdy pujdou hure taktovat jak slepence), ale bezny OC bude uz solidni, navic solidni cena cele platformy muze znamenat pro Intel velkou konkurenci (samozrejme superpi bude dale domenou Intelu, ale ve skutecnosti to nic nevypovida o realnem vykonu ). Kdo by anvic provozoval doma PC na LN2? ...

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A dobrá zpráva obecně pro AMD:
http://www.computerbase.de/news/wirtsch ... nzspritze/

A kdo chce v češtině defakto to stejné:
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?opti ... 9#comments

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Super správa
Aj by som bol rad keby to posunulo AMD-cko o par krokov dopredu, popripade o krok vpred pred intel...
Dost by to rozvyrilo vody procesorov.
A ratam ze aj vyvoj by sa posunul urcite dopredu......

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Tak s vyvojem to nic neudela, Nehalem je novinka, Intel by nemel sanci nic dalsiho a lepsiho nyni uvest na trh a zaroven na ostatnich procesorech se pracuje na obou stranach . Spis je dobre to, ze bude vice konkurencni prostredi a Deneb myslim trosku Intel vystrasi (svym pomerem vykon/cena)

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A mám tu další tabulku dvoujádrových procesorů pro blízké období.
http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2008/ ... ma-big.png

Záhadou jsou mi stále dvoujádra Kuma, kdy skutečně budou? Znivu je tu vidíme v podání dvou procesorů řady 7000. Ovšem lákavější bude 45nm Regor primárně určený pro AM3 socket.

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no o ten istanbul by som mal fakt zaujem neviete o to mnieco viac pls