ASUS P5B

[Panoramix0903]

Zdravim.

Neviete mi niekto poradit, ako z tejto dosky vyrazit vyssie napatie pre RAM ako 2.1V? DeLuxe verzia s tym problem nema. Moje pamate vyzaduju 2.2V na stoperecentnu stabilitu na 1066 MHz. Teraz bezim na 800 MHz, 2.1V s casovanim 4-4-4-12.

[Panoramix0903]

Dear Asus Employee;

I am writting to you because I am A) Tired of filling out that 50 questionar every time I have a problem, and that B) your product has become such a pain in the butt, that It has become useless.

I need you to get in touch with people who may fix my problems... an RMA of a NEW P5B Basic is unacceptable since the board is so basically inadequate, and flawed, and that the Defective issue is that the product design and/or bios is flawed... I have never had such a bad experiance with a Motherboard company.

I need a new motherboard. I am willing to upgrade to the Deluxe for a nominal charge, but I WILL NOT go without a motherboard for a single day. If you need me to pay for the new motherboard upfront and then refund me when you get my POS, I would be more then welcome to do so... This is the most insaine situation I have been apart of... and I will not let my experiances go un-noticed.

I have found no notice on the website of current known flaws with this system. This makes it impossible for me to single out issues... and after RMAing your Mobo, My Videocard, My Hard Drive, and My DVD-RW's I have found out that the same problems exist no matter how many times I replace parts. Like I said, and I will repeat this, I have ALREADY RMAed your MOBO!

Tomshardware has strongly supported Asus Products. There forum members talked a great deal about the P5B Deluxe. I found that I DIDNT need the physical features of the P5B Deluxe, and would rather have just the plain P5B... I was thinking that they would be the same MoBo, just different features... I was wrong...

I am about to go to every known site that deals with hardware and tell everyone my exact experiance... I do beleive that Asus, the company you work for, has the right to correct things and make em right. I am not threatening you, or your company... I am using my powers as a consumer to warn people of all products created by a company that has so completely left the consumer behind.

I am so angry at your company and the problems and time you have taken from me. I bought one of the FIRST commercially available X6800's, and only now do I have a machine that runs for more then a day without crashing. I am not ignorant to creating systems. I help many people on many different websites. I have been building IBM machines since the first 286 came out. I have NEVER had such a bad experiance... you have wasted my time, my money, and many other companies money. Shame on you and your company.

God Bless You, And I hope you (the person's reading this email) are blessed in Life. I wish no harm to anyone, and only like to help. I work on forums to help people with their computer problems. I do not get paid, nor do I want to get paid. I am giving Asus every oportunity to make things right. Please help me, and take care of my problems.

Peace be with you,
Mike


P.S.
When the new version of the Asus Bios... 509 came out... and I finally had a chance to finish testing it out...

I found out that the 2 Lite-On SATA DVD-Readers that I received, and then had to RMA back to NewEgg cause they didnt work... I have the drives cause NewEgg doesnt ask you to ship back items under $25... Upgraded to 509... and then a week later thought... maybe I should try this drive again... YEP IT WORKS... Well that was Asus 309 Bios's fault...

I found out that the x6800 has an unlocked multiplier now... All the way up to a wopping 13x... (15 for the Deluxe). I am VERY upset at this difference.

I found out that the Memory voltage is still maxed at 2.1v... Making me undervolt my corsair 8500c5... Which is still (maybe) reliable at 1066 (though it requires 2.2). In addition the default settings for the corsair memory are incorrect.

I found out that if I change the FSB +/- 1 at any memory multiplier, the machine will almost immediately fail the prime95 stress test...

I found out that the only change I CAN make is to change the multiplier from 11 to 12 and ONLY if I set everything manually ... Though I can run it at 3.5volts and Prime for over 1 hour, and I dont need to increase the FSB voltage anymore then I think 1.3, which I assume is default... and If not I could try 1.2!


Asus has left the p5b Basic in the dust... and it SUCKS! How can a company produce a range of MoBos then leave one of the mobo's so unstable that it barely runs the current technologies...

If it didnt advertise itself as a overclocking motherboard, and as a motherboard that supports the x6800, then things would be different... But the Asus P5B basic is not reliable for normal usage or overclocking .



No $160 Mobo should have so many problems... If only Asus could feel a portion of my anger, they would quickly change their product support...

Yesterday the machine crashed when I plugged into a USB device. The Logitech Momo Steering Wheel is self powered through a power supply of its own. The drivers I am using, and the Momo Wheel have been used for months in another machine without a single failure...

This leads us to a defective product/bios that results due to certain USB support on P5B...

I know that the Asus P5B has other defects... and I havent seen a single acknowledgement of any defects. This makes it impossible for individuals like me to sort out problems, and ultimately leads me to RMA perfectly functional products. Which has happened, over and over again.

I expect Asus might get the DAMN hint and decide that if they screw people, that they will turn around and screw them back... I am on a personal crusade to lower overall sales on ALL Asus products... and will continue this crusade until the DAY I die, or until Asus does something to solve my problems.

[Panoramix0903]

I have a Asus P5B mobo, coming on the first, and have Patriot 2x1 gb ddr2 800 pc26400 kit.
I,ve been told that there may be a compatibility problem. So this morning I call Asus, and the tech told me when I asked if this memory worked on his board" they don't test memory", so how do they design their product, and make recommendations for particular memory? He says that the manufacturers send the data to them! Absolutely no help!

Next I call Patriot, and I ask if their product is compatible with the Asus P5B, and he tells me that they haven't had the chance to obtain a test sample, and specifications of their memory "should" work, "but there is always a chance that the mobo won't like this particular brand of memory"!

I've spent more on the memory, than the total cost of the mobo itself, for good quality memory, and a great mobo, and both manufacturers, can't and won't communicate with each other, and could care less about consumer support!

[Panoramix0903]

Dobry den

Po konzultaci Vaseho dotazu z Taiwanem mi bylo zdeleno, ze P5B v zakladni verzi, bohuzel neumoznuje napeti 2.2V a vyse.
Vse je limitovano hardwarem, tudiz nelze ocekavat ani zmenu BIOSU.


S pozdravem,
Best regards,

Jan Siekiera
Technical Support Department
ASUS Czech s.r.o.

[Panoramix0903]

ASUS is replacing the P5B (non-deluxe) with the P5B-E. The improvements in the board have centered around better performance and overclocking capabilities. ASUS has improved the BIOS while upgrading or adding additional capacitors on the board. Our opinion is that they have succeeded based upon our test results. The current motherboard that is shipping is a 1.01G revision with either the C1 or C2 P965 stepping. As we witnessed in an earlier article there is not a real difference in performance between the two chipsets.

The current P5B-E 1.01G is very well optioned and sells for around US $160. ASUS will be launching a new revision of the motherboard oriented to the enthusiast crowd in the near future and it sports a new PLL controller that allows up to 1.7V for the MCH and 2.45V for the memory. The current 1.01G board does not offer voltage selections for the MCH and memory is limited to 2.10V. The board revision is 1.02G and we do not know if the name will change at this time or not. However, this should not deter the majority of users from considering the 1.01G motherboard as there is no difference in the performance of the boards except in overclocking when utilizing mid to lower range memory modules that require additional voltage.