nVidia G9x - informacie (povodne aj spekulacie)

[crux2005]

G98/G92 ? nV karta s displayportom na IDF

[MichiGen]

Iste mi date za pravdu:

za 1. Neviem preco, ale zda sa i ze Nvidia sa nejak ponahla s tymi kartami. Stale su na nete clanky o tom ako sa ani poriadne nevyuzija vykon 8800GTX a uz robia dalsiu radu

za 2. To oznacovanie GeForce 9 je dost zaujimave, ked si spomenieme na stare dobre radeony 9800PRO

za 3. Nvidii podla mna chyba karta ktora by mala vykon medzi 8600GTS a 8800GTS 320, ved tam zbernica skace z 128bit priamo na 320bit, co 256-bit? tam by sa podla mna hodila jedna karta do stredu s 256-bit zbernicou... Alebo to robi nVidia kvoli tomu, aby prave medzeru vyplnili DX9 karty (7950atd...) aby sa ich zbavila?

za 4. Som zvedavy ako bude Nvidia pokracovat v oznacovani... nebodaj sa po GeForce 9 dockame GeForce X800? :D:D ako to bolo u radeonou? Lebo oznacenie GeForce 10 (teda 10800GT) sa mi zda trosku trapne...

1.Graficky vykon vyuzijes vzdy, staci zapnut co najvyssie AA mody a cely vykon ide do haja, okrem toho G92 o ktorej sa v poslednej dobe co najviac pise podla vsetkeho nebude highend ale mainsream/performance.

2.No a? Uz GeForce 8800 ma rovnake cislovanie ako kedysi stary radeon 8800 , cislovanie nevadi, registrovane nazvy su Radeon a GeForce.

3.To je prave ta medzera ktoru ma vyplnit G92.

4.O tom sa mozme len dohadovat, a aj tak v tom nevidim valny zmysel.

[fobos]

2.No a? Uz GeForce 8800 ma rovnake cislovanie ako kedysi stary radeon 8800 , cislovanie nevadi, registrovane nazvy su Radeon a GeForce.

Ale to boli profesionalne grafiky (FireGL) s ktorymi sa bezny uzivatel nestretaval ...

Btw.: ja v tom ziaden problem nevidim, nech sa kludne GeForce 10 volaju X800 :roll: , co sa podla mna vsak na 90% volat nebudu

[fobos]

Nvidia G92 is GeForce 8800 GT

Jadro G92 ma 96 skalarnych stream processorov a 256bitovu zbernicu. Narozdiel od G80 je ale vyrabane novsim 65nm postupom, ktory mu zrejme umozni pracovat na vyssich frekvenciach. cip tiez podporuje Shader Model 4.1 (DX10.1) a PCI Express 2.0. VR-Zone pise, ze GeForce 8800GT budu pouzivat PCB o 8-10 vrstvach a cela karta bude dlha asi 23 centimetrov. Pouzite pamete budou GDDR3 s ratingom 1ns a nVidia chysta dve varianty podla velkosti pamete. 256MB model vyjde na $199, verzia s 512MB pametou na $249....

[Gogi]

Nvidia G92 is GeForce 8800 GT

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o jednu stranku v threade spat:

Nvidia G92 is GeForce 8700 GTS

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mno v mene si asi este nie su isty, ovsem zaradenim karty si mozme byt isty

som trosku sklamany ze rada G9 bude mat akoze HIGH-END nieco ako G92X2, planujem si postavit high-end pc v dobe ked tu uz neaky cas(dufam) budu karty G9X, a davat si do kompu rok staru kartu(88GTX) mi je frustrujuce(na druhu stranu svedci to o nadcasovosti G80), nehovoriac o tom ze uz je rok stara a draha furt jak slak(+-, slak = relativne slovo),
mno nadalej ostavam v kutku duse dufat ze nVidia vida 8900 a nebude to zlepenec dvoch mainstream-ovych kariet, bo ani s R670 to nevyzera high-end-ovo

[crux2005]

multi-GPU riesenia su buducnost ...

v AMD/ATi pomerne skora, keDze R700 ma byt Dual-Die-Package
Huddy a Edinger sa k tomu uz vyjdarili:

Wie der jüngst von AMD aufgekaufte kanadische Hersteller von Grafikprozessoren gegenüber Golem.de bestatigte, entwickelt ATI derzeit GPUs mit mehreren Kernen. Die neuen Chips sollen zudem deutlich stromsparender als die derzeit aktuellen Modelle sein.

http://www.golem.de/showhigh2.php?file= ... .html&wort

Crossfire was next on the agenda, Richard talking about how important multi-GPU is going to be going forward. At this point it's one of those quietly whispered secrets that AMD's next generation graphics architecture is going to centre around a dual-chip offering for the high-end, with R700 likely comprising two discrete GPU dice.

With that in mind, Huddy's advice about Crossfire maybe signals intent on AMD's part to push multi-GPU as graphics progresses deep into D3D10 and then on to D3D11 and beyond.

Huddy says that AMD simply aren't interested in building large monolithic GPUs any more, instead preferring to scale their offerings via multi-GPU. Speaking about a future where GPUs are built on process nodes approaching 22nm and beyond, limitations because of the process start to encroach on how the IHVs build their chips. Huddy argues that chip size and pad count and one of the biggest things the GPG architects are considering going forward, with no real chance of 512-bit external memory buses on tiny chips.

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/articles/89/2

mno v mene si asi este nie su isty, ovsem zaradenim karty si mozme byt isty

(marketingovy) nazov karty imho nie je podstatny ...
podstatny je vykon

[crux2005]

Well if the information I just got is true, then nV has a little less than 2 months to bump up clockspeeds to make it a bit faster. And they are still undecided about the price, so for a decent price it might still sell well.

The information I got from my most reliable source in the last few months have always indicated that the G92 was a 64 streamprocessor part on a 256-bit memory interface scoring around 9K in 3DM06 to replace the GF8800GTS320.

But who knows... maybe they've got a surprise in store for us and fooled all of my sources.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=377

I'm hearing things about a die-size of 17x17 for G92, which would seem to be a fairly large chip for the $199 bracket. And we all know that nV loves good margins... A chip this size doesn't fit in nV's margin model at all to say the least. Any thoughts?

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php? ... tcount=439

hmmm, 289mm² pre 64 SPs cip to je vela ... este aj pre 96SPs
predsa len G90 ? ktory je trochu viac ako G80@65nm ... ?!

[Jofo]

(marketingovy) nazov karty imho nie je podstatny ...
podstatny je vykon

To zase nie je celkom pravda - plati len pre tych, co sa vyznaju. Preco by potom nVidia predavala napr. GF7100GS, ked ju moze predavat ako GF 6200TC

[crux2005]

1 > 2 a 3 >> 4

To zase nie je celkom pravda - plati len pre tych, co sa vyznaju

ano, tak som to myslel

[Jofo]

hmm....vyzera ze bude opat oplechovane

[crux2005]

NVIDIA 8800GT based on G92 core Early Specs

[fobos]

Fotka GeForce 8800GT



Zdroj

Celkom pekny dizajn :blind:

[crux2005]

tak postnem aspon Dalsie pohlady:





8 pamatovych cipov = potvrdena 256bit zbernica

Zdroj

[crux2005]

GeForce 8800 GT Overclocking Is Good

However, users can still choose to overclock the core and we should be seeing more than 700MHz easily